So you have a Dish Winegard Trav’ler and would love to use the very powerful and fast Hopper 3 but have been told you could not. Well, you were told wrong! You surely can and I have done a video on it in the past showing how. While that tutorial video will work for ANY DISH Winegard Trav’ler system, this one will be less expensive and a cleaner install if you have a 2018 or newer Winegard Trav’ler system!
The DISH Hooper 3 is Dish’s top of the line receiver with 16 tuners! Yes, you read that right…16! As such, you can record A LOT of shows even if they are all on at the same time. It is a very fast and friendly DVR right down to being voice activated. (Internet access is required for some functions such as that.) DISH Network is the only network we recommend for RV’ers as they offer Pay As You Go and also are easy to work with on updating your location so you can receive local channels. This is very important for good weather and news information for the area you are in.
So how do you know if you have a 2018 or newer Trav’ler system? Easiest way to tell is via the serial number on the bottom of the controller box, the box that you use to put the dish up and down. (Assuming you have the original controller and it was not replaced in 2018+ that is.)
The first 7 digits of the serial number is their internal part number, 2769989, the next 6 digits was the date of manufacture.
Example: 27699890308181073, shows it would have been assembled on 03/08/18 and you would be OK to use this upgrade method. If you have any doubt or question feel, free to call Winegard, the will be happy to help you.
Now Winegard has come out with a kit you can buy directly from them. However, if you buy the parts off Amazon, you will save a good deal of money. (Last I heard the kit was $75 + shipping) The part number is: RPSK01H and you will need to call them to order it at 800-288-8094. (At the time of this posting that is. For this is so new that it is not in their on-line system yet!)
CLICK HERE for the PDF File on LNB replacement instructions for your Trav’ler which also includes how to do it with the new HyBrid LNB. (Again, 2018 or newer for that LNB.)
There three parts you will need are…
Dish 1000.2 DISHPRO Hybrid (DPH) LNB WESTERN ARC:
(Now Discontinued so find them on eBay)
Click Here For eBay Search
Dish Network Hybrid Solo Hub:
https://amzn.to/2Dsll2b
1.5 Foot Patch Cables 3 Pack:
https://amzn.to/2IHi78x
You only need one, but it is cheeper, go figure!
It will go from the Hybrid Solo Hub to the Hopper.
…and of course a Hopper 3 if you don’t already have one…
Dish Hopper 3 (If you need one):
https://amzn.to/2QRLgmq
IMPORTANT NOTE: A DVR uses a hard drive to store things like a computer does. The hard drives in DVR’s, any DVR as of this writing, is a mechanical device with moving parts. As such, you want to be sure you unplug or power off the DVR when you travel. If you do not do so, you run the risk of damaging the hard drive to the point of system failure.
How does the use of the new LNB compare to the old fix of using the DPH42 switch?
It is the same. No difference in what it does. The 42 switch is more or less in the LNB. It is just a much cleaner install without the need for an external switch.
Do you connect any cable to the LNB “in” port (port 3) on the new dish pro hybrid LNBF?
I connected port 1 on the LNB to port C on top of the turret, and port 2 on the LNB to port A on the top of the turret,
You just need to follow what I mentioned in the video for the new Hybrid LNB to work. The IN port is for when you may need to add another dish into the mix to link them together. :)
David, I hope you are in good health! I finally got my Hopper 3 in my RV! My Winegard is a 2018 model so I just had to purchase the hub and Hybrid LNB.
Already had three wires in the Winegard hooked up to the old LNB, so I only hooked up two of the three leaving the third wire disconnected. LNB 1 to Turret C, and LNB 2 to Turret A, and then I confirmed that Port C fed to the solo hub.
Thank you very much for your support and for providing this information! I did call Winegard and the person in parts did not claim to know of the part number that you provided (must not be set up in their system!
That’s OK, I purchased via your links provided!
David,
In Iowa after installing the Hybrid LNB, I was locking into all three satellites, Also true in Kansas. Now we are in South Texas and we are not getting locked into 129. Have lock on 110 and 119 (*110 *119 129). I called Wiengard and they told me that they cannot support the Hybrid on their system so no tech support from them.
All channels on Dish network seem to be working OK, but definitely not locked on 129. I shut down the traveler and restarted but it does not change. Anything I should be concerned with?
Thanks!
Bill
129 is the lowest part of the sky and it is likely you can’t “see” the sat for one reason or another. (Tree? tall hill or mountain?) And YES, they will support it as it is even in there HOW TO UPGRADE PDF FILE!!! But I am guessing something in the way.
Using my dish pointer app it shows that i have clear view to 129.
In Dish Diagnostics i have a green check mark for 119 and 110, 129 is gone and the column is titled COM with red X’s.
Well if is not blocked, and you are sure, then you could have a bad LNB. Not sure how long you are there, but if not much longer, I would wait and when you move try it again and see what you get. And yes, you would not get a check in the diag screen if the controller itself can’t even see the sat. :) But they do surely support it as there is a UPGRADE PDF that mentions the hookup for the new Hybrid LNB. (Sent to you via e-mail you will see it is mentioned.)
WOOHOO! Our Travler arrived today and has a MFG date of 08/21/2018! We already have a Hybrid LNB on our tripod mount that will no longer be used, as well as a solo hub. Just need to acquire some dicor sealant and get going on the install! :) . Thx again for the videos!
I changed my system from the previous owners DirectTV to Dish. I purchased/swapped out the LNB and Dish from the existing Traveler setup and tried to find the satellites. Didn’t work after trying the software swap instructions from Winegard. Ended up buying a new controller and now have 110, 119 & 129. But, I tried an older Hopper not a 3 and couldn’t get it to sync up to display properly. It was on/off, on/off as to playing a broadcast, unusable. I learned, I think, that I needed a second coax line from the Traveler uptop and since I only had one on port C I could only use a Wally. That works okay with an added hdd, but I don’t have the bedroom TV on satellite, nor any Hopper like DVR capability. Any suggestions, since running another coax to the Traveler uptop will be areal challenge. I have the solo hub, but Winegard tech support says I need the 2nd coax from the LNB/Traveler for a Hopper or addition receiver to function.
Help if you can, it sure would be appreciated.
If you have On and OFF blanking, that sounds like and HDMI issue. Try another cable. AS far as using a different TV, I would look to use a WIRELESS Joey to extend to another TV. I know I can use one with a Hopper 3, but not 100% on the olde units. You may care to asks someone like on https://DBSTalk.com about that. But the blanking in and out sounds like an HDMI issue to me.
Want this so bad! 1) can I use the Hopper & Joey from my house with all the recordings in place? 2) best way to transition my satellite from Trav’ler w HD to Trav’ler w DISh? Came with the Trav’ler HD in place
Seeing it is a DVR, yes, you move the receiver, all the shows are on the hard drive and thus would still be on it. If you have a DirecTV Travl’er, you need to contact Winegard and purchase an UPGRADE KIT to switch it to DISH. However, if your Trav’ler was not built in 2018, then you will need not only to convert it, you will then need to use the other method to made it Hopper 3 Compatible. So their are a number of things you need to consider for sure. Good luck!
Hi Dave !!
I am curious if your original antenna was a DISH install or DirecTV ? Or did you change it out yourself ?
Thanks
It was DISH. If you have a DirecTV one, it is an easy upgrade kit you can get from winegard.
David, thanks for the video!! I have the Dish Winegard Travler, Sk-1000, WA, Sept 2018. Installed Hybrid LNB and Hybrid Solo Hub, to Hopper3, per your instructions. Wanted to let you know I tried Line 1 to C and Line 2 to A, out C, would not recognize switch, nada… went ahead and connected direct to LNB line 1, worked great, but couldn’t keep it connected that way for obvious reasons.
Decided to try Line 1 to A and Line 2 to C, out A; Works perfect… Don’t know why but get all satellites and all 250+ channels… Just an FYI.
Hi…Not sure what to say in this case. I have sent to you via e-mail a document from Winegard on replacing the LNB. You will see about 1/2 way down the info on putting in the Hybrid LNB. David
Thanks David! They may have wired the turret wrong, Friday afternoon before Labor Day weekend.. with beer and bbq on the brain… Just saying, I tried it another way, it worked. Thanks again!
Hi Dave:
Can I ask you to email me a copy of the winegard document ? I’m not having much luck in finding the correct one on their site.
Thanks
Just wanted to post this link here for others to find. I uploaded it to our site so then people could find it. :)
UPGRADE PDF FILE
This is great news, thanks for posting! Where you describe the date of manufacture, I’m trying to figure how 030818 translates to 9/20/18? Typo? Secret code?
Also, would you be so kind as to forward or direct me to where I can find the DPH conversion PDF you mention in the above comments?
Hi…I added a link to it in the post. But here you go… https://outsideourbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2452261-Replacement-LNB-Rev2-9-18_LR-1.pdf (Sorry for the LONG delay…I just happened to see this is the SPAM area for some reason.)
Hey David. We just picked up our new coach last week and it looks like we have the DP plus LNB. So it looks like if I replace that with the new hybrid LNB all I’ll need inside is the hybrid solo hub?
Solid signal sent me a DPP44 switch with a power inserter. I’m also reading to use the DPH42 switch but honestly that’s a lot of stuff to put in that video cabinet.
Love the videos. Great info.
Thanks Ritchie
Hi…I would check the data of manufacture as I mentioned by looking at the label. I would have to think you would have the new version and as such just need the Hybrid LNB and the Solo Hub. Cheep on Amazon with the links I referenced. You should not need the switch or power inserter.
Yeah it’s definatley a model 2019 so hopefully all I’ll need is the hybrid LNB and I’ll get up and running. I already had the hybrid solo hub.
Thanks again for the info
i just converted my Travler from DTV to Dish and using a Hopper3, Since the travler is western arc only are you receiving networks in HD? Im hoping DNS is available in HD out of NewYork.
Thank you for all your helpful videos
Hi…Yupper. All networks are in HD on both arc’s. You just need to be sure to use the phone app and login and change your location so you can get the national network providers for the area you are in. You will not be able to get NY when in Texas as they use Spot Beams that control the local channels you receive so people can’t get around “blacked out games” or what have you. So if you are set up from NY, you will be out of that viewing area when you move. Hope that makes sense.
Will this work on a Trav’ler made prior to 2018?
Hi… As it reads and as I had said in the video…This is for 2018+ units. The other tutorial I did will work for older units.
So how do you know if you have a 2018 or newer Trav’ler system? Easiest way to tell is via the serial number on the bottom of the controller box, the box that you use to put the dish up and down. (Assuming you have the original controller and it was not replaced in 2018+ that is.)
The first 7 digits of the serial number is their internal part number, 2769989, the next 6 digits was the date of manufacture.
Example: 27699890308181073, shows it would have been assembled on 09/20/18 and you would be OK to use this upgrade method. If you have any doubt or question feel, free to call Winegard, the will be happy to help you.
How do you get 09/20/18 from xxxxxxx030818xxxx ?
Mine is xxxxxxx081318xxx so 08/13/18?
Thanks
Yes, you are correct on your date. Thanks, BIG TYPO! Not even sure how I got that and worse, how it has never been mentioned until now. :)
David, where would you recommend getting the hybrid LNB and the Hopper 3? Amazon is currently out of both! I just received my new Trav’ler, installing it now.
Thanks,
Scott
Try Antennas Direct…. https://www.antennasdirect.com/
i tried them and they don’t seem to have anything for dish at all.
They seem to have been discontinued. Not sure why. But you can find them on eBay. Here is a search link… https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Dish+1000.2+DISHPRO+Hybrid&_sacat=0
So I installed the new hybrid LNB just got my new Hopper activated tried everything out with no luck. Does not recognize the signal. The dish found all the satellites. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Scott
David I am in the process of installing hybrid LNB on Dish Trav’ler. Just got off the phone with Winegard and they told me I can use the cable supplied with the Trav’ler and only use one cable from LNB port 1 to turret
port C.
David I sent an earlier comment I guess it didn’t go through. My comment is I’m installing a Dish Trav’ler
to use with a Hopper3 .The unit was manufactured in April of this year. I called Winegard to inquire
whether I could use 2 of the 3 coax from the regular LNB to hook up the hybrid LNB. They said yes and I
only one coax from LNB1 to Turret C.
The information I provided is a result of working directly with Winegard on it. Been working with them for years. :) So not sure what you are asking if anything.
What I was saying is in your update video you say connect Port 1 on LNB to port C on turret,and Port 2 on LNB to port A on turret. Winegard told me I only need 1 cable from Port 1 on LNB to Port C on turret nothing else needed.
That is to just terminate the cables. Here is a link to the upgrade info from Wingard. AS you will see, they mentioned the connection just as I had worked out with them.
“RPSK01H – Using the supplied dual coax cable, connect the ends with red heat
shrink wrapping to Port 1 on LNB and Port C on TRAV’LER turret. Connect the
black coax cables to Port 2 on LNB and Port A on TRAV’LER turret.
THE HOPPER 3 AND ALL COMPONENTS MUST CONNECT TO PORT C
ON TRAV’LER BASE. PORT A AND B WILL NOT BE USED FOR REGULAR
CONFIGURATIONS.”
https://outsideourbubble.com/downloads/Replacement_LNB%20Rev2%209-18_LR.pdf
Ok I trust your info. I referred to the document you referenced to them yesterday as I could’nt see how just one cable would work and they still insisted only one cable needed. I’m going with the 2 you stated in the video.
I can’t find this hybrid LNB anywhere on your link to amazon.. says it is no longer available. called winegard said to call Dish..who says call winegard ..nice catch 22.. neither says that kit is available for sale from either of them.?? so where can you buy it now..
Hi…It seems that model has been discontinued. Do a search on eBay and you can find them. Just make sure it is the Hybird one. Here is a search link… https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Dish+1000.2+DISHPRO+Hybrid&_sacat=0
I have a unique situation on install but it’s long, is there limit to the size posting?
LOL…Not really sure. But not so sure what could be unique as this upgrade really is cut and dry as to what it is. :)
I have a 2015 control box and turret Dish Trav’ler and I use the Hybrid LNB and the Hybrid Solo Node with a Hopper 3. It works. You just have to make sure you never have the control box and Hopper 3 trying to apply power at the same time or you get a error on the Trav’ler control box that requires a hard power off of everything to reset. The control box stops applying power once the sat or sats are locked in. You start out with the Hopper 3 powered off or Sat Coax opened up (I use a A-B switch for this) and then power on the control box and let it search and lock in sats. I usually unplug the control box once the sats are locked just to be super safe. Then you power on the Hopper 3 or connect coax with the A-B switch and you’re good to go!
have a hopper 3 in a motor home with the dish traveler. Works fine when it works but I have trouble getting the hopper 3 to recognise the DPH 42 switch. I do the reset, power off unplug and so on . Any other suggestions?
Hi…Once it sees the switch, it should just remember that and use it all the time. So not really sure I am sorry to say how to advise. It is almost like you have a cabling issue as it seems it does not “see” the switch or something. But once you run the test and it finds it, that should be that. Sorry, hard to advise on this one. :(
I have read the entire thread and didn’t find my particular situation so I thought I would ask. I have the older Winegard Traveler (2014-15) that I converted from Direct to Dish. About 2 years ago I went with the Hopper 3 and the DPH42 switch. The system worked flawlessly until this week. The coach had been parked since April 15 and Dish account put on pause. System was activated on Tuesday, the Winegard located and locked on the 3 satellites but my Hopper would not connect when I plugged it back in and booted it up. Contacted Dish tech support and they walked me through the diagnostic program and finally got one satellite (119). They indicated it might be a LNB or cable issue but were not at all familiar with any RV installations they recommended I contact the antenna provider. Contacted Winegard and they indicated it could be the cable running from LNB”s to turret. Ordered one from them to be here next week or they said possibly the DPH42 switch. I removed the 3 coaxial cables where they connect to the Dish and was able to get 18v =or- a decimal. Also the connections seemed very warm/hot to the touch where they connected to the DPH42. Had to take the coach to a venue so no further trouble shooting until Sunday when I return it home. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi…
That is a tough one for sure as the Winegard controller says it finds all 3 sats. So if it finds the sats, I am not sure how it can be the cables from the top of the turret to the LNB. If it were, the controller would not be able to find all 3 sats in theory. Does the Hopper see the DP42 switch? It should tell you that when you run a test on the setup. From the switch it goes to the bottom of the turret so it could be the patch cables. The controller just talks to the board inside the Trav’ler which in turn talks to the 3 LNB’s to look for the sats. So it really does not even use the coach cables or the patch cables other than for power. So, very strange one…But I would look at the patch cables and if the Hopper sees the DP42 switch.
Good Luck!
David